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Monday, January 31, 2011

Egypt Protests:Day 7

Al Jazeera Live

    After 6 days of keeping their opinions to themselves, Israel has finally voiced its concerns over the unrest in Egypt.

Israel called on the United States and a number of European countries over the weekend to curb their criticism of President Hosni Mubarak to preserve stability in the region.

Jerusalem seeks to convince its allies that it is in the West's interest to maintain the stability of the Egyptian regime. The diplomatic measures came after statements in Western capitals implying that the United States and European Union supported Mubarak's ouster.

    I wonder how the Egyptians are going to feel when they discover that their neighbor prefers that the dictator stay in control of the country. Is Israel afraid that maybe the next government in Egypt may not be so accommodating to their wishes?

"The Americans and the Europeans are being pulled along by public opinion and aren't considering their genuine interests," one senior Israeli official said. "Even if they are critical of Mubarak they have to make their friends feel that they're not alone. Jordan and Saudi Arabia see the reactions in the West, how everyone is abandoning Mubarak, and this will have very serious implications."

        Now, so far as the protests are concerned, there are many in Israel who like the idea of political change in Egypt and many are hoping that the same can happen in their country.

Al Jazeera English

But interviews revealed something shocking: Some Jewish Israelis, fed up with the stalled peace process and frustrated with the status quo, said that they hope to see an uprising similar to Egypt's sweep through their own country.
Amongst them is a 33-year-old Jewish Israeli woman who lives in Tel Aviv and works in education. When asked if anti-government protests - which began in Tunisia and have spread to Egypt, Jordan and Yemen - might erupt here, she answered: "We're far from it. And I say this in happiness and sadness."
She explained that watching events unfold in Tunisia made her value Israel's stability. But, she added, "I think the appropriate thing here would be a revolution."
Why?
What the interviewee calls Israel's "hidden dictatorships" - political wheeling and dealing that gives the religious right a disproportionate amount of power and allows the Jewish settlers to keep on building illegally.
Rita, a 38-year-old housewife who asked to be identified by a pseudonym, remarked of Egypt's   protests: "I wish that we had people that would go out to the streets like that."

    You can read here to get views from Israelis who could care less if the Egyptians kill themselves trying to gain a Democracy.

 

 

Sunday, January 30, 2011

Fisk: Murbarak's Regime "is Over"/Opposition Groups Unite Behind ElBaradei

Original Article

by david mizner         Sun Jan 30, 2011

According to Al-Jazeera, Mubarak is planning to spend his post-dictator years in Tel-Aviv now that Saudi Arabia has refused to accept him. Is this the beginning of the end of the regime? Robert Fisk think so, and he offers this opinion from Cairo, where he joined the protests, climbing on top of an American-made tank.

[T]he streets of Cairo proved what the United States and EU leaders have simply failed to grasp. It is over.

hat tip/HouseofProgress

The speed with which events are unfolding is simply breathtaking. (Although from another perspective this has been happening for decades.) It seemed like just yesterday, because it was just yesterday, that I, feigning knowledge, was telling people that Mubarak was still likely to put a cap back on the unrest. Not so, according to Fisk, and he ought to know. Voted "International Journalist of the Year" seven times, he's been living in and reporting on the Middle East since the seventies.

The Egyptian tanks, the delirious protesters sitting atop them, the flags, the 40,000 protesters weeping and crying and cheering in Freedom Square and praying around them, the Muslim Brotherhood official sitting amid the tank passengers. Should this be compared to the liberation of Bucharest? Climbing on to an American-made battle tank myself, I could only remember those wonderful films of the liberation of Paris. A few hundred metres away, Hosni Mubarak's black-uniformed security police were still firing at demonstrators near the interior ministry. It was a wild, historical victory celebration, Mubarak's own tanks freeing his capital from his own dictatorship.

In the pantomime world of Mubarak himself – and of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton in Washington – the man who still claims to be president of Egypt swore in the most preposterous choice of vice-president in an attempt to soften the fury of the protesters – Omar Suleiman, Egypt's chief negotiator with Israel and his senior intelligence officer, a 75-year-old with years of visits to Tel Aviv and Jerusalem and four heart attacks to his credit. How this elderly apparatchik might be expected to deal with the anger and joy of liberation of 80 million Egyptians is beyond imagination. When I told the demonstrators on the tank around me the news of Suleiman's appointment, they burst into laughter.

Their crews, in battledress and smiling and in some cases clapping their hands, made no attempt to wipe off the graffiti that the crowds had spray-painted on their tanks. "Mubarak Out – Get Out", and "Your regime is over, Mubarak" have now been plastered on almost every Egyptian tank on the streets of Cairo. On one of the tanks circling Freedom Square was a senior member of the Muslim Brotherhood, Mohamed Beltagi. Earlier, I had walked beside a convoy of tanks near the suburb of Garden City as crowds scrambled on to the machines to hand oranges to the crews, applauding them as Egyptian patriots. However crazed Mubarak's choice of vice-president and his gradual appointment of a powerless new government of cronies, the streets of Cairo proved what the United States and EU leaders have simply failed to grasp. It is over.

That's the good news, but there is plenty of horrible news too, of course. More than one hundred people have died. Looting is rampant. Mubarak has shut down Al-Jazeera. Fisk:

So the "liberation" of Cairo – where, grimly, there came news last night of the looting of the Qasr al-Aini hospital – has yet to run its full course. The end may be clear. The tragedy is not over.

What happens next? No one one knows. But as conservatives and others fret about the "Islamist menace," I want to share this post from Heather Hulbert.

The ‘Islamist Menace’ is overblown. Some American commentators have argued that Al Jazeera is somehow fanning Islamism and anti-Americanism with its coverage. But as Marc Lynch has pointed out, Egyptian citizens, like Tunisians before them, are so—justifiably—angry at their governments that it’s hard to imagine what new provocations the station could come up with. Similarly, concern about the relative strength of the Muslim Brotherhood, which espouses a fundamentalist strain of Islam and has championed and employed violence in the past, should be balanced against three other facts: (1) The Brotherhood has renounced violence and it has been active in Egyptian politics, transformed by an internal debate about whether and how to participate, for some time now; (2) Thus far, observers on the ground report that it is young, secular Egyptians who are leading this revolt; (3) The Islamist Muslim Brotherhood, the largest opposition organization in Egypt, is a first-rank enemy of Al Qaeda, and has been for decades. (A chapter in the recent “Self-Inflicted Wounds” from West Point’s Combating Terrorism Center lays out the feud, and how it has played out in Egypt, South Asia and elsewhere, in detail. Briefly, the Brotherhood’s goals have been more political and focused on individual governments—and thus less focused on what Bin Laden refers to as the “far enemy”—the United States homeland.) Meanwhile, it is reasonable to be concerned about the future role of radical extremists where other forces are weak, but this kind of scaremongering is actually quite ignorant; it’s also disheartening and potentially damaging to the true democrats—some of whom organize around Islam, and some of whom don’t—that are doing the struggling and dying right now. Americans, like others around the world, are instinctively cheering for them. They are right to do so.

I'm cheering for the protestors, and I'm in awe of the courage.

UPDATE: fladem provides links to word other developments, including this important news from the Guardian.

Sensational political developments in Cairo, with reports that five opposition movements, including the key Muslim Brotherhood, have mandated Mohammed ElBaradei to negotiate over the formation of a temporary "national salvation government."

Osama Ghazlai Harb of the National Democrsatic Front told BBC Arabic that this would be a transitional administration that would oversee the cancellation of the emergency laws and the release of all political prisoners

Plus from the NYtimes reports that Mubarak may be going to London, not Tel Aviv. Consensus here seems to be that the idea that he would go to Israel doesn't make sense.